Eklund: And Mark Stone Goes To....

Then what is the “king” of move he would make?

It's the best offer Ottawa will receive if a team overpays and Nashville would be overpaying in this deal for a playoff push. It makes sense for Nashville because it really does make them a really strong team front to back and makes sense for Ottawa because they get young players for UFAs they probably won't be keeping anyway.

It's the best offer Ottawa will receive if a team overpays and Nashville would be overpaying in this deal for a playoff push. It makes sense for Nashville because it really does make them a really strong team front to back and makes sense for Ottawa because they get young players for UFAs they probably won't be keeping anyway.
- Glak18

The return for a #1 center and #1 winger in the NHL is a lot higher than this. Sure UFA status hurts the return but I still think for 2 front line players, this package is not good enough.

Ottawa should be able to leverage by having an auction for the two (with 50% of salary being retained so many more teams can make it work)

I think you have all lost your minds. Stone will not fetch that much.

The return for a #1 center and #1 winger in the NHL is a lot higher than this. Sure UFA status hurts the return but I still think for 2 front line players, this package is not good enough.

Ottawa should be able to leverage by having an auction for the two (with 50% of salary being retained so many more teams can make it work)
- AlfieisKing

We can discuss what the trade is when it actually happens then you can tell me how Dorion is incompetent for not getting what you think they should. We can beat that dead horse after every trade there after.

Ottawa appears to be okay with the return on the Karlsson trade. Tierney and DeMelo have been solid all season. Balcers has just moved up and has scored his first NHL goal. Norris is having a great year at Michigan and looked good at World Juniors. And, there is a first rounder from next year still to come.

If the Sens trade Stone and/or Duchene, I believe they would be only looking at young players, picks and prospects and prepared to accept the longer time horizon by going for depth. Teams that have a strong prospect pool and not wanting to give up roster players have a strong advantage in doing any deal.

Ottawa will not take back any salary as long as Melnyk has the final decision.

Ottawa appears to be okay with the return on the Karlsson trade. Tierney and DeMelo have been solid all season. Balcers has just moved up and has scored his first NHL goal. Norris is having a great year at Michigan and looked good at World Juniors. And, there is a first rounder from next year still to come.

If the Sens trade Stone and/or Duchene, I believe they would be only looking at young players, picks and prospects and prepared to accept the longer time horizon by going for depth. Teams that have a strong prospect pool and not wanting to give up roster players have a strong advantage in doing any deal.

Ottawa will not take back any salary as long as Melnyk has the final decision.
- spatso

And if someone suggested the Karlsson trade before it happened?

I would put money on it that some would say "Not even close, would never happen".

The David Poile Classic: make a statement move, have the media laud you as one of the best execs in the game, only to once again fall short in the post-season.

Ottawa appears to be okay with the return on the Karlsson trade. Tierney and DeMelo have been solid all season. Balcers has just moved up and has scored his first NHL goal. Norris is having a great year at Michigan and looked good at World Juniors. And, there is a first rounder from next year still to come.

If the Sens trade Stone and/or Duchene, I believe they would be only looking at young players, picks and prospects and prepared to accept the longer time horizon by going for depth. Teams that have a strong prospect pool and not wanting to give up roster players have a strong advantage in doing any deal.

Ottawa will not take back any salary as long as Melnyk has the final decision.
- spatso

I thought the sale was goign to happen months ago, that its all part of a master plan. What happened, its been months since then, I thought you had all these deep connections in the Sens Org and in Ottawa that had the inside track on the new arena, sale, new ownerships.

Oh wait you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to the team that you may or may not actually cheer for

I thought the sale was goign to happen months ago, that its all part of a master plan. What happened, its been months since then, I thought you had all these deep connections in the Sens Org and in Ottawa that had the inside track on the new arena, sale, new ownerships.

Oh wait you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to the team that you may or may not actually cheer for
- DDM-Coga

Give them back their 1st!!

The return for a #1 center and #1 winger in the NHL is a lot higher than this. Sure UFA status hurts the return but I still think for 2 front line players, this package is not good enough.

Ottawa should be able to leverage by having an auction for the two (with 50% of salary being retained so many more teams can make it work)
- AlfieisKing

only thing is that I do believe other GMs can leverage hard against the Sens to take a lesser package, similar to the Oilers when it comes to Dman....teams know that Eugene isnt goign to resign them to the money they are worth if they are on the trade block at the TDL

So chances are they wont pay full price for players that Sens know will walk for nothing unless the trade them for something

Give them back their 1st!!
- Glak18

no takesy backsies

I thought the sale was goign to happen months ago, that its all part of a master plan. What happened, its been months since then, I thought you had all these deep connections in the Sens Org and in Ottawa that had the inside track on the new arena, sale, new ownerships.

Oh wait you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to the team that you may or may not actually cheer for
- DDM-Coga

Pay attention.

Melnyk is now in mediation with Trinity in respect to resolving the LeBretton impasse.

The only time dimension I have ever subscribed to was the notion that Melnyk's ownership was past the point of no return and the team would be sold. Financial control of the team has moved to Melnyk's creditors. My position has always been the same. Melnyk will never be a part of the move to LeBretton. LeBretton will proceed and come close to the time line set out in the current plan.

How this is announced or how it is implemented is the ongoing challenge for lawyers and accountants. And, now they have a highly regarded provincial court judge appointed as mediator.

only thing is that I do believe other GMs can leverage hard against the Sens to take a lesser package, similar to the Oilers when it comes to Dman....teams know that Eugene isnt goign to resign them to the money they are worth if they are on the trade block at the TDL

So chances are they wont pay full price for players that Sens know will walk for nothing unless the trade them for something
- DDM-Coga

Full price is a redundant concept. A rich man can afford to pay full price for food scraps that an impoverished child cannot afford.

Teams interested in doing a deadline deal want to buy immediate results. Sellers are working towards long term goals. So, you look at a deal for what it is. Who ever knows if this pick and that prospect will ever offer full value in relation to what was given up. On the other hand, we know that teams who build a deep pool of picks and prospects will eventually become successful.

The Sens are now operating on a 3 to 4 year horizon on their rebuild. They have no first round pick this coming year. They will be happy if they get a late round 1st and prospect for Stone and Duchene.

If Ek were a GM a trade would never happen. He'd tell the GM more to come and stay tuned and never call back.

The David Poile Classic: make a statement move, have the media laud you as one of the best execs in the game, only to once again fall short in the post-season.
- TommyHawk

He's the best GM in the NHL but until he wins a Cup he isn't. But then again Chiarelli won a Cup so..maybe Poile is the best GM after all.

And if someone suggested the Karlsson trade before it happened?

I would put money on it that some would say "Not even close, would never happen".
- Glak18

I bet Doug Wilson is still laughing over that trade.

Pay attention.

Melnyk is now in mediation with Trinity in respect to resolving the LeBretton impasse.

The only time dimension I have ever subscribed to was the notion that Melnyk's ownership was past the point of no return and the team would be sold. Financial control of the team has moved to Melnyk's creditors. My position has always been the same. Melnyk will never be a part of the move to LeBretton. LeBretton will proceed and come close to the time line set out in the current plan.

How this is announced or how it is implemented is the ongoing challenge for lawyers and accountants. And, now they have a highly regarded provincial court judge appointed as mediator.
- spatso

He doesn't know how to do that. He's still hung up on some bet he got wrong that we made years ago. He also says something positive about the Sens maybe 1/20 times he writes about them.

Sens aren't going anywhere

Stone is a captain and a notch under franchise player right now. Plays with heart, best 2-way forward since Alfie. Neither him or Duchene should be traded for a anything less than a good package - with manycontenders and few impact guys of the caliber. Anything else is just buzz talk

This offer blows lol Ottawa gets screwed big time

I would think the Preds could use Stone only. Fiala (or Fabbri) + a 1st only. Perhaps with a conditional 2nd added if Stone resigns.

I bet Doug Wilson is still laughing over that trade.
- gergeswillems

If SJ doesn’t win a cup and he doesn’t resign it’s a win for OTT

He's the best GM in the NHL but until he wins a Cup he isn't. But then again Chiarelli won a Cup so..maybe Poile is the best GM after all.
- gergeswillems

The playoffs are such a crapshoot, winning a Cup shouldn't really factor into it that much. Building a team that has a chance to win the crapshoot year after year matters a lot more.

He doesn't know how to do that. He's still hung up on some bet he got wrong that we made years ago. He also says something positive about the Sens maybe 1/20 times he writes about them.

Sens aren't going anywhere

Stone is a captain and a notch under franchise player right now. Plays with heart, best 2-way forward since Alfie. Neither him or Duchene should be traded for a anything less than a good package - with manycontenders and few impact guys of the caliber. Anything else is just buzz talk
- AlfieisKing

He doesn't know how to do that. He's still hung up on some bet he got wrong that we made years ago. He also says something positive about the Sens maybe 1/20 times he writes about them.

Sens aren't going anywhere

Stone is a captain and a notch under franchise player right now. Plays with heart, best 2-way forward since Alfie. Neither him or Duchene should be traded for a anything less than a good package - with manycontenders and few impact guys of the caliber. Anything else is just buzz talk
- AlfieisKing

You mean the bet he WON but you welched on because your account still hasn't been deleted?